It’s like musical chairs, but with hamburgers!

by Brian

As I start this post, I am at the edge of sleep.  Imagine, if you will, a man at a desk with eyes half closed and slow laborious breathing.  He is leaning backwards in his chair and yet his stomach is in full contact with the aforementioned desk.  Ladies and gentlemen, that man is me.

Tonight I had the privilege of eating at one of Los Angeles’ burger institutions.  It’s housed in a little building on Pico just east of the 405 freeway and across from the Westside Pavillion.  This is the joint that you hear about when people do their best of L.A. lists.  It’s small, it’s hot and you can’t park within a city block of the place.  It turns out all of those things are beneficial though, because without them the lines would be around the block instead of just past the door.  Here at EatMeCalifornia, we like to cut through the hype and tell it like it is.  So without further ado, I give you…

The Apple Pan – 10801 W. Pico, Los Angeles


My main reason for wanting to come to this place was because I had heard that they have great burgers.  While that ended up being true, it was the seating arrangements that made for the most interesting part of the night.  That’s because The Apple Pan has one u-shaped counter, no tables, no booths, nothing else.  As you walk in the door, you are instantly greeted by the suspicious eyes of everyone else waiting for a seat.  There is no hostess taking names.  Instead, you simply take note of the people already there and then of anyone who comes in after you.  In theory this seems pretty straightforward, in practice though, it is anything but.

There are two schools of thought when it comes to seating.  The first is simple enough: first come, first served.  The second theory, as explained to me by a patron tonight is this: attempt to figure out which customers are almost done eating, stand behind those customers and then, as they leave, take their seats.  As I waited for the people who arrived before us to be seated, I witnessed several intense battles over the right to claim a place at the counter.  Luckily, I had gotten to know many of the customers and didn’t have too much trouble after waiting my turn (about 45 minutes).  I was told by several customers that this was about as busy as The Apple Pan gets, but considering the peoplewatching and the legitimate prospect of violence, I considered the wait to be pretty manageable.

As I took my seat and let myself sink into the vinyl, I began to really absorb the sights and smells of The Apple Pan.  The meat smell is wonderful and you can actually hear the sizzle of the patties as they cook on the grill.  The house sauce, which is some kind of apple relish and ketchup mix, hangs in the air and gives the place a sweet and tangy aroma.  Needless to say, between the smells, the wait and the hike from the car, I was ready to get my burger on.

I ordered their standard burger (they call it the Steakburger), but because it was my first time to The Apple Pan, I ordered a double.  I also got some fries and an IBC Rootbeer for good measure.  Wow, when my burger came out my jaw almost hit the counter.  The hamburger patties were about 3/4 of an inch thick.  Usually when I order a double at Tommy’s, In-N-Out or someplace like that, it’s just enough food for a guy like me.  This was half a cow on a bun.  Plus, the burger comes with the previously mentioned sauce, which is unique to The Apple Pan and completely makes the burger in my opinion.

My rootbeer came out in an ice cold bottle that reminded me of the days and nights I spent with my dad sipping away, listening to Vin Scully call the dodgers on the radio.  The fries were delicious, and more importantly they allow you to order them regular or well done, which is the kind of old school transparency that I love about this place.  They put it all out there for you to see, in all its simple glory.  With all the food I went through, I almost didn’t have room for dessert, but I just didn’t have the heart to let you guys down.

I asked a few customers about what I should get for dessert (I was expecting apple pie) and it ended up unanimous that I should try the banana cream pie.   The banana cream pie can best be described like this:

  • 1/2 inch whipped cream
  • 1/2 inch banana cream filling
  • 2 inches large chunks of banana with cream filling as the mortar holding the chunks together.

It was awesome!  I don’t normally go out of my way to order banana cream pie, but this had the perfect mix of bananas and filling which kept it from being too sweet.  Next time I will try to sample the apple pie and report back, but I’m not making any promises.  The banana was that good.


I just want to leave you with a few spare thoughts before I wrap up this post.  First, the service at this place is old school and no-nonsense.  It’s best if you keep the questions to a minimum.  I asked our server, Gordon, how long he had been there and he replied simply, “Too long.” Second, bring cash, the registers are leftovers from the Roosevelt era and these guys are more likely to take your pink slip than a credit card.  Third, remember the people immediately before you and immediately after you. If you manage that, things just kinda take care of themselves.

If you made it this far into my post, congratulations!  It is becoming obvious to me that the blood normally pumping into my brain and propelling my writing is instead working overtime in my stomach.  If that doesn’t tell you how much I enjoyed The Apple Pan, I’m not sure that anything else will.  Okay, maybe this photo:


Thank you and Goodnight!


  • Awesome burgers, hasn’t changed in over 60 years.
  • Simple menu, few options, all done right.
  • It’s like Survivor in a burger joint.


  • No Parking (Try the mall parking across the street)
  • People hovering over your seat like vultures.

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Special thanks to our neighbors at the counter.  Without you, we wouldn’t have learned the ropes so quickly.



Filed under Los Angeles Area, Westside, Westwood

11 responses to “It’s like musical chairs, but with hamburgers!

  1. Kim Reiss

    The banana cream pie is the best! A favorite place of mine for this Westside girl!

    • Best banana cream pie I’ve ever tasted. I forgot to mention the guy who told me the banana was good also said the apple was “decent.” The guy behind the counter heard him and said, “It’s decent?!?!?!!?” and gave him the most disgusted look. It was classic.

  2. I have been here twice and left twice without eating based on the waiting issue. For a place that is supposed to be so awesome, why don’t they expand and get more seats. Now I have to go back based on your awesome banana pie pic

    • mmmmmmm, I just want to stick my face in a whole pie. Alas, I’m living off nuts and berries today in an effort to get rid of the 5lbs I’ve gained in the past 2 weeks.

      • ok so because of your blog, i drove all the f out here and waited for the musical chairs party and it was worth it. it was really tasty goodness, except that i am really bitter that the banana pie was out and i had that shit ass pecan pie. it was crap. dont ever order it. now i have to drive all the way out there and do this madness again. thanks alot brian

        • Thanks for the tip on the pecan. I hate pecan pie anyway, so I would have steered clear. Still, thanks for lookin’ out.

          If you need company for your rematch, hit me up.

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  4. Fergus McCool

    Today, I recommended the Royale at B&R Burger, to Brian. If you’re man enough 🙂
    Do it with the pastrami!

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